Every country in the world has its' own road rules. In Finland this kind of parking really is illegal. And Finland isn't the only country in the world where it is illegal.
In terms of the Russian rules and in heads of the Russian people it's completely normal, and I don't see any reason to consider this way of parking unsecured and forbid that on the street with not too large traffic.
Finland seemed to me pleasant country to live in but parking rules is the worst impression of the country. Too much limits, inadequate parking fee... Why do you need any limits in such a little town like Hamina for example?
You have a very good country, but when we talk about parking, you're crazy, guys, really.
If you come to Finland, you don't "speak in terms of Russian parking rules". You follow Finnish traffic laws. Period. If this doesn't suit you, you are free to not come here.
The reason for forbidding parking against direction of traffic is safety. In order to use a parking space on the other side of the road you need to cross the driving lane coming in opposite direction. This becomes even more dangerous when you exit the parking spot: You will exit into incoming traffic.
This may be allowed in some countries, but to my mind as a Finn that is plain stupid and dangerous. I think it is good to simply legally forbid this, it makes traffic safer.
I'd also like to remind you that you can still use the free parking space - simply turn around and park in the correct orientation. It isn't too much to ask, is it?
How the incomer should guess if it is legal or not? When it comes to speed limit, or usage of headlights, it is EXPLICITLY shown on road signs on a state border. Most of traffic rules in both countries are the same and follow same Geneva pattern. This pattern allows states to have some minor differences, but these are obviously considered unimortant. Most of important rules are stadnardized. However, there can be minor differences, like this one. Or like - is it legal to cross road on bike, or you have to get off it, walk accross the road and get on again. Minor differences. I guess, this is not a real violation, not like when someone leaves his car in the middle of a road or occupies 2 spots at once.
"but to my mind as a Finn that is plain stupid" IMHO it is stupid to prohibit parking on opposite side, when there's no solid line(s). With such an attitude some can say that it is dangerous to make left turn on T cross-road. Traffic would be safer if we just prohibit it. And it is 100% safe to leave the car in a garage.
"It isn't too much to ask, is it?" Sure it is. It is LESS safe to make a lot of maneuvers, including reversing.
Ajoneuvon saa tiellä pysäyttää tai pysäköidä vain oikealle puolelle. Yksisuuntaisella tiellä on pysäyttäminen ja pysäköinti myös vasemmalle puolelle tietä sallittu.
Ajoneuvo on pysäytettävä tai pysäköitävä tien suuntaisesti ja mahdollisimman kauas ajoradan keskeltä."
Rough translation:
"26 §
Stopping and parking
A vehicle can only be stopped or parked to the right side of the road. On a one way street stopping and parking is also allowed to the left side of the road.
The vehicle must be stopped or parked in the direction of the street and as far from the center of the driveway as possible."
Should you decide to come and visit Finland, you need to find out these things YOURSELF. What you DON'T do is come here and think everything is the same as in your home country, and then requiring others to do the digging for you.
in the city, if there not solid line, two traffic lanes, parking can be on any side of the road
ReplyDeleteIncorrect. In Finland you must park in the direction of traffic. This means that in a two-way street you are only allowed to park on the right side.
DeleteIn Finland, if it's a two way street, you can only park to the right side of the road. It's as simple as that.
ReplyDeleteYou have own road rules in Suomi?
ReplyDeleteRoad have only 2 traffic lines (one forward, and one back), it is ok parking in all world :).
Every country in the world has its' own road rules. In Finland this kind of parking really is illegal. And Finland isn't the only country in the world where it is illegal.
DeleteEven a quick use of Google shows that it is also illegal in Sweden, Portugal, France, Cyprus...
DeleteIn terms of the Russian rules and in heads of the Russian people it's completely normal, and I don't see any reason to consider this way of parking unsecured and forbid that on the street with not too large traffic.
ReplyDeleteFinland seemed to me pleasant country to live in but parking rules is the worst impression of the country. Too much limits, inadequate parking fee... Why do you need any limits in such a little town like Hamina for example?
You have a very good country, but when we talk about parking, you're crazy, guys, really.
If you come to Finland, you don't "speak in terms of Russian parking rules". You follow Finnish traffic laws. Period. If this doesn't suit you, you are free to not come here.
DeleteThe reason for forbidding parking against direction of traffic is safety. In order to use a parking space on the other side of the road you need to cross the driving lane coming in opposite direction. This becomes even more dangerous when you exit the parking spot: You will exit into incoming traffic.
This may be allowed in some countries, but to my mind as a Finn that is plain stupid and dangerous. I think it is good to simply legally forbid this, it makes traffic safer.
I'd also like to remind you that you can still use the free parking space - simply turn around and park in the correct orientation. It isn't too much to ask, is it?
How the incomer should guess if it is legal or not? When it comes to speed limit, or usage of headlights, it is EXPLICITLY shown on road signs on a state border.
DeleteMost of traffic rules in both countries are the same and follow same Geneva pattern. This pattern allows states to have some minor differences, but these are obviously considered unimortant. Most of important rules are stadnardized. However, there can be minor differences, like this one. Or like - is it legal to cross road on bike, or you have to get off it, walk accross the road and get on again. Minor differences. I guess, this is not a real violation, not like when someone leaves his car in the middle of a road or occupies 2 spots at once.
"but to my mind as a Finn that is plain stupid"
IMHO it is stupid to prohibit parking on opposite side, when there's no solid line(s). With such an attitude some can say that it is dangerous to make left turn on T cross-road. Traffic would be safer if we just prohibit it. And it is 100% safe to leave the car in a garage.
"It isn't too much to ask, is it?"
Sure it is. It is LESS safe to make a lot of maneuvers, including reversing.
"How the incomer should guess if it is legal or not?"
Deletewhat a carte blanche for rapists and murderers, huh? :-)
"In Finland, if it's a two way street, you can only park to the right side of the road.."
ReplyDeleteProoof link, please.
Road traffic law: http://www.finlex.fi/fi/laki/ajantasa/1981/19810267
Delete"26 §
Pysäyttäminen ja pysäköinti
Ajoneuvon saa tiellä pysäyttää tai pysäköidä vain oikealle puolelle. Yksisuuntaisella tiellä on pysäyttäminen ja pysäköinti myös vasemmalle puolelle tietä sallittu.
Ajoneuvo on pysäytettävä tai pysäköitävä tien suuntaisesti ja mahdollisimman kauas ajoradan keskeltä."
Rough translation:
"26 §
Stopping and parking
A vehicle can only be stopped or parked to the right side of the road. On a one way street stopping and parking is also allowed to the left side of the road.
The vehicle must be stopped or parked in the direction of the street and as far from the center of the driveway as possible."
Should you decide to come and visit Finland, you need to find out these things YOURSELF. What you DON'T do is come here and think everything is the same as in your home country, and then requiring others to do the digging for you.
DeleteIt is also forbidden in Russia: you can park on the left side only on one-way street. So no appologise for this violation.
ReplyDelete